Karachi: Hassan Nisar, the most over-rated and so called senior analyst of Pakistan was witnessed abusing Islamic culture and dressing code like veil and hijab, few days back on Dunya TV’s show Talash, hosted by Aniq Naji.
During the show, Hassan Nisar, the most confused man in the country who knows nothing other than criticizing everyone discovered on his own that Niqab and Veil are not the part of Islam but only an Arab tradition. He said that Niqab is not included in the five pillars of Islam and it is a part of Arab culture because of the Arab desert environment.
He continues to assert further that beard on face is also the part of Arab culture and has nothing to do with Islam as not mentioned in the five pillars of Islam.
Hassan Nisar is truly a fool’s champ, the master, knows nothing about Islam yet speaks most about Islam, wonderful!
Sir, telling truth or lie, commands regarding Ribah, theft, bullying others, obeying parents, taking good care of neighbors, so on and so forth are also not included in the list of Pillars of Islam. So, does it mean that these are not the fundamental tenets of Islam?
Nevertheless, with much respect, I want to ask Mr. Hassan Nisar, Sir for God’s sake keep your non sense talks with yourself and your bamboozled like minded people. Avoid discussing Islam in shows, interviews and likes. You know nothing about Islam as evident from your statements, please read out Quran with translation. You will surely get to know what Islam has commanded regarding the veil or Hijab and many other things.
Akram Khan
The person writing this critique obviously knows nothing about Islam either. It is quite easy to blast a criticism or opposition laden with emotional statements, and quite another to prove something with facts and arguments. In this post, you have done nothing other than insulting Hassn Nisar without giving ANY proof as to why you think what he said was wrong.
Hassam Ahmed
@Akram Khan, This is why I think he said wrong about the obligation of Hijab, ““O you Children of Adam! We have bestowed on you raiment to cover your shame as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness, that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition.” (Quran 7:26)
“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers, or their brothers’ sons or their sisters’ sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).
“O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.” (Quran 33:59)
Hadith – Bukhari 6:282
‘Aisha (ra) used to say: “When (the Verse): ‘They should draw their veils over their necks and bosoms,’ was revealed, (the ladies) cut their waist sheets at the edges and covered their faces with the cut pieces.”
It would be enough I think.
Regards..
Akram Khan
Brother, thanks for the reply. What you have written now is more like it as you clearly make your case without any emotional appeal. I, however, respectfully reject all your assertions. The topic was Hijab. That is, *ONLY* concerning with covering a womans face, head, and neck in a way that only their eyes are visible. The type you see respectable sisters of Jamaat Islami wear on different TV programs. The only verse in Quran which you can vaguely or remotely attempt to justify Hijab is 24:31, and that too does not talk about covering of head, face, and neck like you think it does. I am not going to go into social discussion as to how demeaning and degrading it is to woman, and how is blasts Islam’s claims of equality and better treatment of woman right out of the water, rather I will simply invite you to read that verse again and ponder over this: the last part of the verse where they are advised to hide their adornment or beauty from everyone except males belonging to certain group, it is quite revealing to note that it mentions small boys who know nothing of female nakedness or their private parts. That implies that adornment is females presentation in sexually arousing or attrative fashion which would invite a male’s sexual desire to be aroused. What does that have to do with face???? If you think that a woman’s *sexual* attraction starts and ends with face, you need to not only get out more 🙂 but also learn something about female anatomy. This verse, IMHO (and opinion of countless other esteemed scholars and philosophers) simply means that woman should not go out in front of those who may find them sexually attractive in a manner which would openly invite such advance. Males of a certain group are excluded because they either genetically/biologically not attracted to the female in that manner, or will have strong family and cultural boundaries around them to discourage such a thought. A brother or father would simply let out a ewweee if presented with the thought that their sister or daughter is hot… Think about it, and don’t draw conclusions not explicitly written in Quran. Do you think it was hard for Allah to say cover your face too rather than going into painfull details about which males can’t see it, and vaguelly referring to it as “beauty” knowing fully well that it will continue to haunt the followers forever to come?
take care.
Hassam Ahmed
@Akram Khan, @Akram Khan, Why are you so concerned about covering the face?
Where did in my piece I mention that Hijab is about covering face too?
Its only in Hadith which I mentioned and that too is in English not in Arabic .. So everyone could extract different interpretations in language other than Arabic..
I suggest you Do not get too much emotional for women and not be a leader of women rights..
Regards.
Akram Khan
Sir, please go back and ready your original blog post on this page where you were saying that Hassan Nisar is a fool for having suggested that Hijab and Veil are not part of Islam….! I am sure what your interpretation of Veil is, but it is quite well understood by most everyone that it is the covering of head, face and neck so that only a slit is available for eyes to see through. And as far as me worrying about rights of women is concenred, I think that for me or anyone else to look the other way would be cruel and evil. We men subject women to rules and interpretations that we impose on them to make their lives miserable, so if we discourage the only segment of population that can raise a loud voice in their favour (i.e. men!) then we have left women truly oppressed and victimized with no recourse…. Please think about it. Besides, women are my daughters, mothers, sisters, and members of the same society that I live in so they deserve every bit of support like any other weak member of the society.
Regards,
Hassam Ahmed
@Akram Khan, @Akram Khan, Where did I meant Hijab is covering the whole face with only eyes open?
Prove your point, don’t give baseless arguments I request..
Akram Khan
Please enlighten me as to what sort of Niqab and Veil did you mean when you said that it was islamic. The point is that no type if Niqab and Veil (as forced upon our helpless and victimized women in the name of Islam) is Islamic. Hassan Nisar said that this oppressive practice has no basis in the five pillars of Islam (and I further that by saying that it has no basis in Quran. Period!), and you wrote a blog post making fun of him. I suggest that you should’t join the movement and agendas of cruel and evil mullahs for distorting religion for your own gain. I mean no disrespect to you, and you can delete my comments if you like because it is your web site.
Hassam Ahmed
@Akram Khan, @Akram Khan, No, you do have the right to argue, but argue sensibly.. Don’t try to practice the religion with your mind. Practice it with the orders and commands no matter how much they seem negative to you or your liberal thoughts..
You are not arguing with facts, you just say, “Change the orders with the change of time.” this is not on bro, absolutely not..
You want the women to go nude if they want.. If this is what you are trying to say then we will also fought for rights of raping women and satisfy our sexual needs, changing the religion with time.
kami
Akram you can’t convince these idiots who want to want the solution of all problems by refering to 1400 years ago, they have no bases eaxce3pt emotional statements, such people lack common sense and in quran they are refered to those who have eyes and they can’t see and have ears but they can’t hear.
if we as a muslim claim that Islam is a religion for all seasons and times then it must have the ability to adjust with the chnages and time, otherwise its just another version of christainity or judisam
Hassam Ahmed
@kami, A perfect example of a perfect ignorant 🙂
Many applause for you…
Akram Khan
@kami, bro, I appreciate your support but I would have to humbly ask you to not engage in name calling. Hassam is as passionate about his view as I and you about ours. Why can’t we get our point across in a polite manner? I know it feels very frustrating when something is so obvious to you but the other person just doesn’t see it. The way I get over this frustration is that Hassam is feeling exactly the *same* about my “ignorance”.
take care.
Akram Khan
@Hassam:
Bro, I ask the same of you: argue sensibly. Please do not fall victim to your fear that by arguing against an *UnIslamic* version of Niqab and Veil, we are arguing for a society where women would run wild and naked. I have proven to you from Quran–without changing any of its meanings to suit my liberal views (as you aledge)–that Niqab and Veil as forced upon women in our region (and also in placed like Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, etc). I am not taunting you, but seeing a woman’s face in public is not same as seeing her naked. And that goes back to one of my earlier assertions that what does a woman’s sexuality have to do with her face? Also, you should have a little more faith in women! Why this mindset that a). we have to decide for them as to what is appropriate for them or not, and b). this lack of confidence that if given the freedom to break the confines of Veil and Niqab, they will automatically want to run naked next??? Don’t you feel that they are every bit modest and respectable and dignified human beings as you and I? If you and I would not even remotely entertain the thought of going naked in public, why you think they would? With all due respect, your argument hinted as if women are viewed as this wild, whorish bunch who can’t wait to engage in absoutely embarassing and demeaning attitude and the minutes we say they dont have to wear Niqab and Veil, they will automatically tear their clothes and run naked on streets. And if that is the NOT the view you have of women, then why this view of people like me (who are trying to raise and awareness that an inhumane treatment of women has no basis in Quran) that we are set to really get these women naked so we could see strip tease right on the streeet without having to bother with the expense of that???
Please think about it, and it would be a good idea to have some tolerance about these things without falling prey to brain washing agenda of mullahs who are so horny that they could develope an er*tion just by looking at the face of a women….
Hassam Ahmed
@Akram Khan, Come directly to the point please. You talk a lot yet useless..
Is Hijab totally invalid in your opinion or what?
Please, answer to the point, I don’t have much time to read your lengthy statements..
Thanks
Akram Khan
Sorry, I have no time to engage in further talks with someone who no only has nothing to argue with other than emotional dialogues and baseless notions, but also refuses to open up. Keep happy in your ways and make sure that women around you do not live a humane life. Please make sure that you do your best to make it as inhumane and animal like as possible. You may also want to tie them up night to stake in the ground to complete the image of them being nothing more than sheep and cows–what you really seem to treat them like.
All the best.
Hassam Ahmed
@Akram Khan, You wasted my time brother, now when we were starting point to point discussion, you lost patience 🙂
Regards.
Aamer
Dear Bros
FACTS
1) Islam does NOT teach extremism (Moderation
preferred)=> Neither ultra modern nor Shuttle cock
style
2) Arabs DO HAVE tradition of veil, even prostitutes used to wear veil 1400 years ago just read some arab history.
3) Beard is ALSO in Arabic culture. what Hassan Nisar and I wanna assert is, one should focus MORE on INTERNAL beard and veil of a person than outward looks.
change begins within and then its effects are seen outwardly,
but majority of our ppl want to do it in reverse order.
Just try to learn to hear some1 else’s POV and then try to think too.
wearing a veil or keeping a beard does not guarantee your salvation brothers!
its your nee’at and actions.
God Bless!
Tanveer Ahmed Khan
To Hassan Nisar
What do you say about Nikkah.This is also not mentioned in five Pillars of Islam ? Did your mother had a nikhah with
your father ? If not then what would you call yourself ?
Hassie Spirit
I read discussion of you guys .Firstly i have no stronge knowledge abt Islam bt i think we should read certain Verse according to context and in which time or condition they were written. For example Prophet PBUH disliked long clothes beneath ankles of some Arabians but at the same time when Hazarat Abu Bakr RA asked that they usually use to keep there SHALWAR beneath their ankle the Prophet PBUH said its not for you its for them because in yhere tradition it is used to show there higher status….I guess you got wht i wanted to said. Sory to Allah if i said something wrong……